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		<title>Comment on Telecommunications by Mike Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@EJ - I'd imagine that even the maintenance is going to be difficult to justify in some areas.

@ruben - I had an interesting discussion yesterday about the impacts of all of us converting to electric powered heating systems, even "greener" options like geothermal typically still need electricity. As we live in an ever more connected world, it seems plausible that manufacturers will be required to improve the ability for computers and other electronic devices to turn off charging or all power when not in use. In Australia - every power outlet &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Australian_dual_switched_power_point.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;has a switch on it&lt;/a&gt; - now doesn't that make sense?

@Trish - Thanks for linking to the post! You are right with the choices we make. While oil and natural gas are cheap, we will choose to heat our houses rather than make them as efficient as possible. For many houses - aside from the really low hanging fruit of sealing leaks etc, without an intensive make-over they are almost as efficient as they can be. 

No one commented on the image? I thought it was awesome  :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@EJ - I&#8217;d imagine that even the maintenance is going to be difficult to justify in some areas.</p>
<p>@ruben - I had an interesting discussion yesterday about the impacts of all of us converting to electric powered heating systems, even &#8220;greener&#8221; options like geothermal typically still need electricity. As we live in an ever more connected world, it seems plausible that manufacturers will be required to improve the ability for computers and other electronic devices to turn off charging or all power when not in use. In Australia - every power outlet <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Australian_dual_switched_power_point.jpg">has a switch on it</a> - now doesn&#8217;t that make sense?</p>
<p>@Trish - Thanks for linking to the post! You are right with the choices we make. While oil and natural gas are cheap, we will choose to heat our houses rather than make them as efficient as possible. For many houses - aside from the really low hanging fruit of sealing leaks etc, without an intensive make-over they are almost as efficient as they can be. </p>
<p>No one commented on the image? I thought it was awesome  <img src='http://urbanworkbench.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Castlegar Airport Beacons by A Long Comment and Thoughts on Blogging</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Long Comment and Thoughts on Blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Castlegar Airport Beacons - My Response (click to read full comment)  I see nothing “self righteous” in what I’m saying on this website. Theses are opinions, not intended to prove my ideals better or worse than others. However, the residents of the City of Castlegar deserve more information about the realities of how the decline of the oil economy is going to impact them. I am a professional engineer involved in many sustainability projects - I criticize this project because I live in the community and only see a short term useful life of these beacons…. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Castlegar Airport Beacons - My Response (click to read full comment)  I see nothing “self righteous” in what I’m saying on this website. Theses are opinions, not intended to prove my ideals better or worse than others. However, the residents of the City of Castlegar deserve more information about the realities of how the decline of the oil economy is going to impact them. I am a professional engineer involved in many sustainability projects - I criticize this project because I live in the community and only see a short term useful life of these beacons&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>A Long Comment and Thoughts on Blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Comment from Alex on Castlegar Airport Beacons  umm….I think someone forgot to take their meds today… [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Castlegar Airport Beacons by Mike Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see nothing "self righteous" in what I'm saying on this website. Theses are opinions, not intended to prove my ideals better or worse than others. However, the residents of the City of Castlegar deserve more information about the realities of how the decline of the oil economy is going to impact them. I am a professional engineer involved in many sustainability projects - I criticize this project because I live in the community and only see a short term useful life of these beacons.

I live within walking distance to shops and public transport - and up until last year, our family only had one car. We live on almost an acre of viable land for agriculture and do grow much of our own food, including tree fruits, vegetables, and grains including wheat, oats and amaranth - we eat, process or preserve all of this food ourselves. The food currently stored in our cold room will provide about a third of our fruit and vegetable needs for the winter months. Since moving into this house we have more than doubled the area of garden used for growing food. 

I do now drive to work, and chose my current job based on professional development and the opportunity to do some amazing work in a community that faces many sustainability issues. However, that community is about 600 meters higher than where I currently live, with a shorter growing season, so we have made the decision to stay in a place - the commute is along highways with minimal traffic. Part of the choice living in the mountains (in a community of 7,500 people) is that there are distances between rural centers - if you do need to travel there are few choices - that's why I publicly advocate a revival of the rail network in this part of the world, currently only used to transport various (likely toxic) substances from a pulp mill in Castlegar and Zinc Smelter in Trail.

Do I practice what I preach? Depends on what you mean. Many things that I write are equally a challenge to me and my family as much as for my readers...
- Are my family and the organizations I work with aiming towards a level of community self reliance currently not commonly practiced? - yes. 
- Am I taking advantage of the oil economy to achieve some of these things? - yes.

I'm not criticizing those who choose air travel, (I haven't been on a plane in two years - not that it really matters - but you asked), but an acknowledgment that this behavior is likely to not be possible without oil would be nice. Oil, if you don't know, is going to run out one day - and you'd need an awfully long power cord to run an airplane on electricity using today's technology.

The world and particularly those of us in North America that are so comfortable in our convenient, oil driven culture, face massive challenges in the years ahead. Spending money on infrastructure that has no long term viability makes no sense. If a technology was developed that clearly showed that commercial air travel was going to be possible without reliance on oil - I would support this project. But until that day, such a plane is a pipe dream and this project squanders a million dollars that could be better spent.

You were curious...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see nothing &#8220;self righteous&#8221; in what I&#8217;m saying on this website. Theses are opinions, not intended to prove my ideals better or worse than others. However, the residents of the City of Castlegar deserve more information about the realities of how the decline of the oil economy is going to impact them. I am a professional engineer involved in many sustainability projects - I criticize this project because I live in the community and only see a short term useful life of these beacons.</p>
<p>I live within walking distance to shops and public transport - and up until last year, our family only had one car. We live on almost an acre of viable land for agriculture and do grow much of our own food, including tree fruits, vegetables, and grains including wheat, oats and amaranth - we eat, process or preserve all of this food ourselves. The food currently stored in our cold room will provide about a third of our fruit and vegetable needs for the winter months. Since moving into this house we have more than doubled the area of garden used for growing food. </p>
<p>I do now drive to work, and chose my current job based on professional development and the opportunity to do some amazing work in a community that faces many sustainability issues. However, that community is about 600 meters higher than where I currently live, with a shorter growing season, so we have made the decision to stay in a place - the commute is along highways with minimal traffic. Part of the choice living in the mountains (in a community of 7,500 people) is that there are distances between rural centers - if you do need to travel there are few choices - that&#8217;s why I publicly advocate a revival of the rail network in this part of the world, currently only used to transport various (likely toxic) substances from a pulp mill in Castlegar and Zinc Smelter in Trail.</p>
<p>Do I practice what I preach? Depends on what you mean. Many things that I write are equally a challenge to me and my family as much as for my readers&#8230;<br />
- Are my family and the organizations I work with aiming towards a level of community self reliance currently not commonly practiced? - yes.<br />
- Am I taking advantage of the oil economy to achieve some of these things? - yes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not criticizing those who choose air travel, (I haven&#8217;t been on a plane in two years - not that it really matters - but you asked), but an acknowledgment that this behavior is likely to not be possible without oil would be nice. Oil, if you don&#8217;t know, is going to run out one day - and you&#8217;d need an awfully long power cord to run an airplane on electricity using today&#8217;s technology.</p>
<p>The world and particularly those of us in North America that are so comfortable in our convenient, oil driven culture, face massive challenges in the years ahead. Spending money on infrastructure that has no long term viability makes no sense. If a technology was developed that clearly showed that commercial air travel was going to be possible without reliance on oil - I would support this project. But until that day, such a plane is a pipe dream and this project squanders a million dollars that could be better spent.</p>
<p>You were curious&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Telecommunications by Trish Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trish Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike -- Thanks for this, been wondering when the lid would rip off our illusions about the benefits of recycling. Without regional re-manufacturing centres, recycling our little household wastes makes very little sense. But people believe. Meanwhile, construction waste---that comes from irresponsible design and build practices, I contend---chokes our landfills.
I reblogged a portion of your post! Very excited about that!
Speaking of computers, I do see how we would choose the Internet over warm homes. We are doing right now with every stick-frame home we build that leaks warmth, has no thermal mass and yet is wired to the teeth for all the bells and whistles of the digital entertainment age.
Bloody depressing, but true.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Trish Barness last blog post..&lt;a href="http://march-seventh.blogspot.com/2008/11/sustainable-designs-for-life.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sustainable Designs for Life&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike &#8212; Thanks for this, been wondering when the lid would rip off our illusions about the benefits of recycling. Without regional re-manufacturing centres, recycling our little household wastes makes very little sense. But people believe. Meanwhile, construction waste&#8212;that comes from irresponsible design and build practices, I contend&#8212;chokes our landfills.<br />
I reblogged a portion of your post! Very excited about that!<br />
Speaking of computers, I do see how we would choose the Internet over warm homes. We are doing right now with every stick-frame home we build that leaks warmth, has no thermal mass and yet is wired to the teeth for all the bells and whistles of the digital entertainment age.<br />
Bloody depressing, but true.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Trish Barness last blog post..<a href="http://march-seventh.blogspot.com/2008/11/sustainable-designs-for-life.html">Sustainable Designs for Life</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>Comment on Telecommunications by Ruben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike,

In addition to the installation costs, I have seen numbers suggesting that what Kevin Kelly calls the One Machine (all the computers in the world, servers, etc.) uses about 5% of global electricity and about 10% of energy consumed in the US. That is a staggering number. Here is a link.
http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/09/the_electric_gr.php

I don't see how we would choose the internet over warm homes, or incubators, or lights in the hospital or maybe even charging electric cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike,</p>
<p>In addition to the installation costs, I have seen numbers suggesting that what Kevin Kelly calls the One Machine (all the computers in the world, servers, etc.) uses about 5% of global electricity and about 10% of energy consumed in the US. That is a staggering number. Here is a link.<br />
<a href="http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/09/the_electric_gr.php">http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/09/the_electric_gr.php</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how we would choose the internet over warm homes, or incubators, or lights in the hospital or maybe even charging electric cars.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Telecommunications by EJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe in the future there will be more maintenance and less new infrastructure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe in the future there will be more maintenance and less new infrastructure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Castlegar Airport Beacons by Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umm....I think someone forgot to take their meds today...

Browsing through your site, I'm interested to know if you practice what you self righteously preach.  How do you get to work and shopping?  Do you grow all all of your own food?  Refuse to use airplanes?  Live in high density housing? Just curious....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm&#8230;.I think someone forgot to take their meds today&#8230;</p>
<p>Browsing through your site, I&#8217;m interested to know if you practice what you self righteously preach.  How do you get to work and shopping?  Do you grow all all of your own food?  Refuse to use airplanes?  Live in high density housing? Just curious&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Boring Playgrounds by Mike Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray! Thank you for your comments Anita, and thanks for reading! 

Walking is a lost art in today's drive everywhere culture. If you look elsewhere on my site, you'll see that I don't believe that this is a permanent, sustainable or feasible state for any community - and I welcome the opportunity to challenge communities to re-design themselves around walkable hubs rather than drivable stripmalls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray! Thank you for your comments Anita, and thanks for reading! </p>
<p>Walking is a lost art in today&#8217;s drive everywhere culture. If you look elsewhere on my site, you&#8217;ll see that I don&#8217;t believe that this is a permanent, sustainable or feasible state for any community - and I welcome the opportunity to challenge communities to re-design themselves around walkable hubs rather than drivable stripmalls.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Boring Playgrounds by Anita Van Asperdt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita Van Asperdt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a landscape architect and have to agree that most playgrounds are boring. As landscape architects we are "forced" to use standard catalogue play structures mostly because our clients (cities and schools) are afraid of the liability that comes with a creatively designed playground. And yes that does result in McPlaygrounds. It is also true that some companies are designing nicer and more exciting play equipment. However in my mind nothing can compare with playing outdoor in nature. Nature play not only challenges kids physical abilities but has many other benefits. 

There is overwhelming evidence from research that proves that natural play is important to children's overall development in every major way, benefits include: concentration and impulse control, emotional coping and stress reduction, stimulation of creativity, reduced symptons of ADD and ADHD. No piece of manufactured play equipment can provide that. Of course it is possible to combine a good piece of equipment with a natural setting. My company LandCurrent and several other designers in the country are now designing Natural Playgrounds (also see www.naturalplaygrounds.info). 

I think this is only one little step in the right direction, eventually we need to design our communities so that kids once again can walk out of their house and play in a natural setting right outside their home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a landscape architect and have to agree that most playgrounds are boring. As landscape architects we are &#8220;forced&#8221; to use standard catalogue play structures mostly because our clients (cities and schools) are afraid of the liability that comes with a creatively designed playground. And yes that does result in McPlaygrounds. It is also true that some companies are designing nicer and more exciting play equipment. However in my mind nothing can compare with playing outdoor in nature. Nature play not only challenges kids physical abilities but has many other benefits. </p>
<p>There is overwhelming evidence from research that proves that natural play is important to children&#8217;s overall development in every major way, benefits include: concentration and impulse control, emotional coping and stress reduction, stimulation of creativity, reduced symptons of ADD and ADHD. No piece of manufactured play equipment can provide that. Of course it is possible to combine a good piece of equipment with a natural setting. My company LandCurrent and several other designers in the country are now designing Natural Playgrounds (also see <a href="http://www.naturalplaygrounds.info">http://www.naturalplaygrounds.info</a>). </p>
<p>I think this is only one little step in the right direction, eventually we need to design our communities so that kids once again can walk out of their house and play in a natural setting right outside their home.</p>
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