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		<title>By: Environmentalism and Feminism: An Attraction of Opposites &#124; Welmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Environmentalism and Feminism: An Attraction of Opposites &#124; Welmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] shotgun-style blasts at men in general, and they are in fact leaving out a big part of the story. This article, for example, lashes out at white men as the villains who are destroying the environment and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] shotgun-style blasts at men in general, and they are in fact leaving out a big part of the story. This article, for example, lashes out at white men as the villains who are destroying the environment and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Janice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stu - you certainly have bad judgement in your choice of partner.  You do not sound at all happy.  My condolences.

It seems to me that males still have the upper hand in the income stakes and also do their share in buying rather useless toys such as boats for pleasure only, trucks that they do not need, all sorts of other gadgets.

Let&#039;s not get into the blame game, we all have our part to play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stu &#8211; you certainly have bad judgement in your choice of partner.  You do not sound at all happy.  My condolences.</p>
<p>It seems to me that males still have the upper hand in the income stakes and also do their share in buying rather useless toys such as boats for pleasure only, trucks that they do not need, all sorts of other gadgets.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not get into the blame game, we all have our part to play.</p>
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		<title>By: <img src='http://urbanworkbench.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/twitter.png'/> Mike Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator><img src='http://urbanworkbench.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/twitter.png'/> Mike Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside - Should also note that the carbon footprint of a Westerner can be anywhere between 35 and 160 times that of someone in an undeveloped country, (stats refer to UK vs Bangladesh and Ethiopia). So while we may not be the majority in a population sense, we are the majority of the problem from a lifestyle sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside &#8211; Should also note that the carbon footprint of a Westerner can be anywhere between 35 and 160 times that of someone in an undeveloped country, (stats refer to UK vs Bangladesh and Ethiopia). So while we may not be the majority in a population sense, we are the majority of the problem from a lifestyle sense.</p>
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		<title>By: <img src='http://urbanworkbench.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/twitter.png'/> Mike Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator><img src='http://urbanworkbench.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/twitter.png'/> Mike Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Stu - So - [tongue firmly in cheek] -  now it&#039;s stupid white women that are to blame? 

Most of my post was directed at white people in general and our consuming habits, as you&#039;ve so eloquently pointed out from your example of your partner. Women seemed to do just fine before the advent of the mega-corporation and advertising campaigns, and they seem to do just fine in countries where there is less influence of these types. Point well taken though - women have their share of the burden.

As to the suggestion that white men will find a way out of this mess, and I note that you suggest that there may not be one, the book &quot;Tar Sands&quot; by Andrew Nikiforuk is a frightening read - the efforts of mostly white men to make a buck out of this filthy non-renewable resource without any concern for the environment or the future of a continent is a pretty good example of stupid white men. Despite years of advice to slow things down, everything is still ramping up - all to create oil from tar because it seems that we as a society can&#039;t live without it.

Thanks for your comment, it seems as though our positions are not that far removed, I did edit out the name calling though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stu &#8211; So &#8211; [tongue firmly in cheek] &#8211;  now it&#8217;s stupid white women that are to blame? </p>
<p>Most of my post was directed at white people in general and our consuming habits, as you&#8217;ve so eloquently pointed out from your example of your partner. Women seemed to do just fine before the advent of the mega-corporation and advertising campaigns, and they seem to do just fine in countries where there is less influence of these types. Point well taken though &#8211; women have their share of the burden.</p>
<p>As to the suggestion that white men will find a way out of this mess, and I note that you suggest that there may not be one, the book &#8220;Tar Sands&#8221; by Andrew Nikiforuk is a frightening read &#8211; the efforts of mostly white men to make a buck out of this filthy non-renewable resource without any concern for the environment or the future of a continent is a pretty good example of stupid white men. Despite years of advice to slow things down, everything is still ramping up &#8211; all to create oil from tar because it seems that we as a society can&#8217;t live without it.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment, it seems as though our positions are not that far removed, I did edit out the name calling though.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your a ***** mate. White people are not the majority in the world, they are a very small minority.  Every race is at the pie competition, and the most brutal inhuman ways of competing is in the non white countries perpetrated by the likes  of Arabs, Asians.   Say what you want about the white race but we discovered and invented nearly all of the things that most people, including you, rely on for your comfy life.   Yes the world is in a mess.........consumerism has gone mad, waste of resources and materials is the order of the day.......have look at how women consume and how they drive consumption for a sec before you blame white men for everything......they require more heating, air conditioning, how much energy and materials go into all those cosmetic products and toiletries.   How many pairs of shoes and handbags is enough.......how much clothing do they need........throwing out perfectly good clothing and decor just to keep up with the latest.   My electricity bill, gas bill and phone bill has tripled since my now defacto moved in.......my recycle bin can&#039;t hold all the plastic packaging and rubbish that she produces with her junk purchases......and I needed to put additional wardrobes in the spare room to hold all of her revolving door of clothes that only ever get worn a few times each before being chucked or stored for ever more in an ever growing pile of boxes that is taking over my garage.   Electric everything.....toothbrushes.....can openers......electric knives........electric blade razors... The main reason we have to air condition workplaces is because of women........women only want to work in plush surroundings with all creature comforts.......and it&#039;s the same at home.....heater on all the time when it&#039;s not hot.......air con when it is hot........must have air con in the car.....and work.....how many women do you know that say.......&quot; I love the hot weather......summer&quot; but insist on having air con in their house, their work, and their car.......what they love about summer is looking at a nice sunny day through a window from a climate controlled environment.......that and getting around in their revealing clothes strutting their tits and arse.   Look at who women worship.........celebs.......people who consume and use resources at a staggering rate and produce nothing required by society.....actors......writers.......sports stars.........opera...........pop stars.......it&#039;s all about superficial rubbish.

If there is a way out of this mess.....and I think not.......the innovation will have to come from white men also......the world will blame the white man for not being able to sustain the paradise they created, but what are the complainers doing.........apart from consuming like there is no tomorrow..........in the end things will go back to how they would have been without the white mans innovations and discoveries.......then see what it&#039;s like.

Hate to tell you this *****.......but haven&#039;t you heard.........all cultures are equal............oh.........sorry.....except white culture that is......which is of course inferior because we invented and discovered our way from the caves to the moon and created a society where people have the most freedom, and most prosperity, and more rights then any human beings to have ever walked this earth.........but hey......were still just stupid......right  .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your a ***** mate. White people are not the majority in the world, they are a very small minority.  Every race is at the pie competition, and the most brutal inhuman ways of competing is in the non white countries perpetrated by the likes  of Arabs, Asians.   Say what you want about the white race but we discovered and invented nearly all of the things that most people, including you, rely on for your comfy life.   Yes the world is in a mess&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;consumerism has gone mad, waste of resources and materials is the order of the day&#8230;&#8230;.have look at how women consume and how they drive consumption for a sec before you blame white men for everything&#8230;&#8230;they require more heating, air conditioning, how much energy and materials go into all those cosmetic products and toiletries.   How many pairs of shoes and handbags is enough&#8230;&#8230;.how much clothing do they need&#8230;&#8230;..throwing out perfectly good clothing and decor just to keep up with the latest.   My electricity bill, gas bill and phone bill has tripled since my now defacto moved in&#8230;&#8230;.my recycle bin can&#8217;t hold all the plastic packaging and rubbish that she produces with her junk purchases&#8230;&#8230;and I needed to put additional wardrobes in the spare room to hold all of her revolving door of clothes that only ever get worn a few times each before being chucked or stored for ever more in an ever growing pile of boxes that is taking over my garage.   Electric everything&#8230;..toothbrushes&#8230;..can openers&#8230;&#8230;electric knives&#8230;&#8230;..electric blade razors&#8230; The main reason we have to air condition workplaces is because of women&#8230;&#8230;..women only want to work in plush surroundings with all creature comforts&#8230;&#8230;.and it&#8217;s the same at home&#8230;..heater on all the time when it&#8217;s not hot&#8230;&#8230;.air con when it is hot&#8230;&#8230;..must have air con in the car&#8230;..and work&#8230;..how many women do you know that say&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221; I love the hot weather&#8230;&#8230;summer&#8221; but insist on having air con in their house, their work, and their car&#8230;&#8230;.what they love about summer is looking at a nice sunny day through a window from a climate controlled environment&#8230;&#8230;.that and getting around in their revealing clothes strutting their tits and arse.   Look at who women worship&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;celebs&#8230;&#8230;.people who consume and use resources at a staggering rate and produce nothing required by society&#8230;..actors&#8230;&#8230;writers&#8230;&#8230;.sports stars&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;opera&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..pop stars&#8230;&#8230;.it&#8217;s all about superficial rubbish.</p>
<p>If there is a way out of this mess&#8230;..and I think not&#8230;&#8230;.the innovation will have to come from white men also&#8230;&#8230;the world will blame the white man for not being able to sustain the paradise they created, but what are the complainers doing&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;apart from consuming like there is no tomorrow&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.in the end things will go back to how they would have been without the white mans innovations and discoveries&#8230;&#8230;.then see what it&#8217;s like.</p>
<p>Hate to tell you this *****&#8230;&#8230;.but haven&#8217;t you heard&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;all cultures are equal&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;oh&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;sorry&#8230;..except white culture that is&#8230;&#8230;which is of course inferior because we invented and discovered our way from the caves to the moon and created a society where people have the most freedom, and most prosperity, and more rights then any human beings to have ever walked this earth&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;but hey&#8230;&#8230;were still just stupid&#8230;&#8230;right  &#8230;..</p>
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